The Pink Smoke's own Christopher Funderburg recently appeared on The Wrong Reel podcast with host James Hancock and Pinnland Empire's Marcus Pinn to talk about legendary American independent filmmaker Hal Hartley.

In the first half of the episode, they get caught up on the subject of pro wrestling (??) before moving on to a free-wheeling and at times personal discussion of the increasingly overlooked work of the poet of Long Island. The discussion of Hartley begins at around twenty minutes in (although the wrestling discussion is hugely entertaining in its own right.)